Saints say NFL bounty probe took a toll on season

METAIRIE (AP) — Blame the bounty scandal.

That's what many in New Orleans are doing, including some Saints.

They blame it for overshadowing their entire season, for unfairly portraying the team as the NFL's No. 1 sinners.

And they blame it, in part, for a mistake-prone 0-4 start that led to New Orleans not making the playoffs for the first time

in four years.

Players and coaches had said they would not allow the NFL's disruptive probe of the Saints' cash-for-hits program and resulting

suspensions — including head coach Sean Payton's full-season ban — to become an excuse for failure. At the same time, few

at club headquarters say it had no bearing on the club's performance.

"Forever you can equate the two and I think

it's fair to equate the two," said linebacker Scott Shanle, now

finishing his

seventh season in New Orleans. "Never has a coach been suspended

for an entire year and it's a pretty big deal when you look

at the grand scheme of what a head coach does, especially a coach

like coach Payton, who's had the success he's had."

In addition to Payton's suspension, general

manager Mickey Loomis got eight games and assistant head coach Joe Vitt

six games

before returning to serve in the interim head coaching role he

assumed when Payton's suspension began in the offseason. While

Vitt was away, offensive line coach Aaron Kromer stepped in as

interim to the interim head coach.

Two defensive captains also were punished

initially. But linebacker Jonathan Vilma and end Will Smith undertook a


legal battle that overturned their suspensions, which otherwise

would have sideline Vilma for a year and Smith for four games.

Publicly, Vitt preached that the Saints must avoid the temptation to point to the bounty probe when things went wrong. Yet

Vitt had a different take when he appeared earlier this month as a witness at a closed hearing for the players' appeals of

their punishment.

Speaking before former Commissioner Paul Tagliabue, who was appointed to oversee the hearings, Vitt made it clear he felt

the NFL had undermined the competitive integrity of the league with harsh punishments based primarily on the testimony of

two fired assistant coaches: former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams and former defensive assistant Mike Cerullo.

"How are we going to sell this to our

public? How are we going to sell this to the season ticket holders, that

this has all

taken place? We're 5-7, we've disappointed a community, we've

disappointed a region because of Mike Cerullo and Gregg Williams?

How do we do this? How do we sell this?" Vitt said on Dec. 3,

according to transcripts obtained by The Associated Press. "Sean

is suspended for a year, Mickey Loomis for eight weeks? ... Who

got hurt? Who was maimed? Look at the film. Who are we going

to sell this to?"

Less than a week after Vitt's testimony, the Saints visited the New York Giants and lost 52-27, falling to 5-8.

New Orleans has since rallied for two

straight wins, and can finish the season 8-8 with a victory at home on

Sunday over Carolina.

But that is far short of expectations for a team that won more

regular-season and playoff games combined than any other during

the previous three seasons.

"We can reflect much more at the end of the

season. I'd rather not even try to go too deep right now," quarterback

Drew Brees

said this week when asked about the bounty probe's toll. "Were

there distractions? Yeah. Was there circumstances swirling

around us that were just crazy and we had no idea what to expect,

challenges? Yes, most definitely. But I will not allow myself,

we will not allow our team, to use that as a crutch or an excuse.

Others might say ... 'It affected you guys.' That's fine,

but we're not going to go there."

The Saints have long since acknowledged they

had a performance pool that offered nominal cash rewards for big plays,


big hits, similar to what numerous other teams have run for

generations. However, players and coaches have been adamant that

they never ran a bounty program of the nefarious and intentionally

injurious nature described by the league, and that they

were unjustly singled out and punished.

Saints right tackle Zach Strief said he and teammates were angry about the way the club was treated by the league, but added

that players generally have tunnel vision during the season.

"There's a period in the offseason when you can feel that way, and then once the season starts there's no time to worry about

it," Strief said.

Strief said the experienced assistant coaches who ran the team in Payton's absence did a good job keeping the routine largely

the same and delivering messages in meetings similar to the way Payton had in the past.

"I don't ever remember going on the field

and saying, 'That meeting on Wednesday really has me shaken up.' So I

don't think

there's necessarily an effect like that," Strief said. "But

obviously there's a reason (Payton is) a head football coach in

the NFL, because he's a talented coach, and so it's not just

players that lose something from him not being here. He's also

an integral part of our coaching staff and they didn't have him.

So you're putting those coaches in situations they've never

been in.

"It's more work and more pressure and stress

on everybody. Coach Payton carries this big weight, and when he leaves

it has

to get picked up by a lot of people. You can't deny there's not an

effect, but to sit there and say, 'How many wins does that

get you?' is impossible."

New Orleans has won seven of 11 games since

the 0-4 start, leaving Shanle to wonder whether the impact of Payton's


did not manifest itself most early in the regular season. The

Saints lost all four games by single digits, including an overtime

loss at home to a Kansas City team that is now 2-13.

"I think the start of our season would have been different. We would have won one or two games here or there that would have

changed everything to where we are now," Shanle said. "We all said it wouldn't affect us, but it was much harder when that

reality came. But after we got used to, 'This is how the flow is going to be now,' we played better. We just never played

consistently. Our play reflected the roller coaster that was our offseason and our summer."